Pattaya Bar Fine Lessons

I was recently in Pattaya for the first time and thought I would start off with a bang. After arriving in Bangkok and getting a ride to Pattaya (shout out to Nam’s Taxi Service) I changed my clothes and headed down to Walking Street. I did a little bit of research beforehand and already made a list of places I wanted to visit. My first stop was a well known go go bar that I’m sure most people that have been to Pattaya have visited. Even after watching lots of YouTube videos on this subject I was blown away by the number of beautiful girls dancing on stage.

I was ushered into a booth by one of the staff and I ordered a drink. After 20 minutes of checking out the scene I chose the girl that I wanted to buy a drink for. Like I mentioned I already did my research from doing research online so I was familiar with the concept of lady drinks bar fines along with short time and long time. I guess I was on a high from just arriving in Pattaya but I decided to go off script so everything that happened afterwards was not mentioned in any video I saw.

I asked one of the staff to get the girl I wanted and after a few minutes her and her friends sat down beside me let’s call them Jib and Nan. I was in heaven with two beautiful Thai ladies sitting by me. The only problem was that the staff told me they were both new and did not speak any English. I didn’t think this was a big deal since I had my phone with me and had Google Translate.

After a few minutes of the usual conversation what’s your name where you come from how long you stay in Pattaya I decided to bar fine not one but both of them. I decided to go for a long time since I didn’t want to be rushed. So I called the mamasan over and I paid the bar fines for the pair of them. For those interested at this particular place lady drinks are around 200 300 Baht each the bar fine was 1300 Baht each short time is 3000 Baht and long time is 5000 Baht. My total bill to take them out was 12600 Baht. Good thing I was well prepared and had the cash on hand. I know these prices are higher than average but I was willing to pay for more quality if you can catch my drift.

After they changed into their street clothes I paid for a taxi back to my hotel. I should have known something was off when we all sat down on my couch and they were acting a little bit funny. We had some more awkward conversation through Google Translate and then Nan announced that she was hungry. We decided to walk over to the nearest 7 Eleven to grab some food. The two of them got microwave pasta and some drinks. Wanting to be a gentleman I paid for their meals. We were back at my room and they sat at the counter to eat while I sat on the couch watching TV. This went on for about 30 minutes or so and I was getting a little bit nervous that we were going to run out of time or that they were trying to run the clock on me before we did anything.

No Aerobics After the Bar Fine

I invited them to my room and asked them if they wanted to take a shower which they both declined. I thought this was a little odd as I was told Thai girls take up to three showers a day and are very clean. But I went with it and started to initiate aerobics. They both were shocked and tried to explain to me why there would be no aerobics. Their explanation wasn’t coming through so eventually they both said it was ‘that time of the month’ and left it at that. I was pretty confused and frustrated after hearing this since I knew they were lying. So I told them we were going back to the bar to speak with the mamasan which really set them off.

We had an awkward ride back on a baht bus to Walking Street. I made them pay the total cost for the ride which I admit was a little childish on my part. We went back to the bar and I explained the situation to the mamasan and asked for a refund. I learned that when you take two girls out it’s just a party with them and no aerobics is included. The girls should have explained this to me beforehand but since they were new and didn’t speak any English they didn’t mention this. She asked me if I wanted to spend time with just one of them instead but I turned down this offer as the whole situation left me feeling sour about both of them.

The mamasan told them off for this mistake and asked them to return my money. Luckily they agreed so I got 10000 Baht back. But unfortunately I wasn’t able to get the money for the bar fine back as I still had to pay it since I took the two of them out of the bar. I think nobody was really happy about the situation so I guess that’s how I know it was a fair compromise.

I decided to stay to see if there was someone else I wanted to take out but it was getting late into the night so the pickings were getting slim. I went home alone that night and that’s how my first night ended in Pattaya.

I reflected on what happened the next day and remembered that many girls are just doing this bar work as a job to support their families back home. I thought about my behavior and I wasn’t too happy about how I acted that night. I went back to the bar and called the mamasan and the two girls over and explained how I didn’t like how things ended the previous night. I gave each girl a 2000 Baht tip for their troubles the money for the baht bus ride back to the bar and I bought everyone a drink to bury the hatchet. I’m not sure how they took this gesture but I felt better about what I did.

A few days later I bar fined Jib and we had a lovely time together. I learned about her family her hopes her dreams and what she plans to do in the future. Remember these girls are just doing a job and mistakes can and will happen. Who hasn’t messed up before on a new job? There are good learning opportunities and I’m sure these girls won’t make the same mistake again. I also learned an important lesson about discussing with the girls exactly what I’m looking for before bar fining them. This has helped me out on more than one occasion. The rest of my time in Pattaya was filled with amazing experiences and I look forward to going back.

Story Two From the Philippines to Thailand A Nurses Journey

I have always had an attraction to Asian girls and for years I wanted to take a trip to the Philippines in the hopes that I would meet a nice girl or at least have some fun. American girls never really worked out for me as they tend to judge a man on the money he makes the car he drives and the real estate he owns.

By 2018 I was doing well in my nursing career and had the funds for a three week trip to Angeles City and Manila Philippines. I met a Korean American guy called Sammy online who lived in Angeles City and he operated a chat group for men from abroad around the world coming to Angeles City who needed advice and guidance. For newbies like myself he got a commission from the guys he could bring into go go bars as he had an agreement with most of the owners. People like me were referred to as ‘cherry boys.’

Being my first time in Asia after 32 hours of airports and flying I arrived at my Angeles City hotel and took a nap to recover from the lack of sleep. By 5 PM I was instructed by Sammy to meet at Monsoons a local go go bar. When I walked in I could not believe what I was seeing so many beautiful girls dancing on stage and every one of them was staring at me. I could feel the excitement building at what I was seeing for the first time and I must have had ‘cherry boy’ written on my forehead.

Thankfully Sammy and a small group of the chat group guys came over to greet me and welcome me for my first visit. As the music is blasting and while I take in the sights of the skimpy dressed dancing girls they are giving me advice on bar fines and how short time and long time work. As liquid confidence is taking effect I fancied one particular dancer. She noticed that I was fixated on her and she kept smiling at me. After a few more beers I walked up to the stage and I gave her money a very rookie thing to do to my regret. She ended up with another guy who seemed to know her.

Sammy and the guys left for another bar and I stayed at Monsoons. The beautiful waitress called Lani who had been serving drinks to me asked if I wanted another beer. I said ‘Sure would you like a drink as well?’ ‘Yes’ she replied. And when she returned to my surprise she sat next to me and very very closely. Needless to say I felt so good. After small talk I asked if I could treat her to some food and drinks after her shift. She said that she could end her shift now I didn’t realize waitresses could be bar fined as well.

We had a fantastic evening together an even better aerobic session way into the early hours of the morning. Moving forward I canceled the second leg of my excursion to Manila fortified my hotel money and stayed with Lani every single day of my three week trip. I was required to pay her bar fine every day in fact I had no problem with this as she was a lot of fun. My three weeks with Lani were fantastic even though I wanted a little free time for myself to visit other go go bars I never had the heart to tell her this. On the night I had to depart for home she cried and I was welling up myself. It was a difficult goodbye but I told her I would return soon.

Lani Changes After the Trip

Lani and I kept in touch via video chat. After six months of working I explained to Lani the dates I could return in 2019 but my employer would only allow me two weeks off work instead of three. This made Lani angry as she wanted me to stay for another three weeks. I was quite surprised by her unreasonable demands as I had never seen this side of Lani before.

I had an unfortunate night in September 2019. I was involved in a small car accident. I was arrested for drinking and driving even though I had not been drinking I blew zeros on the breathalyzer but refused to give the police a urine sample as I have never heard of this and did not trust them. I lost my license and now had to deal with the legalities and hiring an attorney. I explained to Lani my situation as I could not go to the Philippines to see her. Rather than showing me sympathy she gave me an attitude for not being able to visit her.

COVID hit and everything came to a stop including putting my legal troubles behind me. Lani still kept in touch periodically but eventually she met an American expat and our correspondence ceased. I have wonderful memories of Lani and my Philippine holiday but maybe it’s best that she found a man to support her and I’m still single. My legal troubles are finally behind me and now with the experience I’ve gained from the Philippines I think I’ll have a great trip to Thailand in February 2023.

Story Three The Spell of Knock A 65 Year Olds Confession

My name is Dave. I come from a small village in Wales. It’s quite safe and it has lots of beautiful countryside but it’s incredibly boring with just one pub in the village. I’ve been visiting Thailand for the past 15 years on my own and I’ve always enjoyed my time in the country. I first discovered Thailand with a bunch of friends from our village we went out there on a cheap package deal many years ago. I fell in love with Thailand and have been going back there at least two times a year. What I really enjoy about Thailand the most is the relaxed atmosphere with lots of smiles and friendly faces you just don’t get that where I live back home.

Okay here is my short story. It proves that even with lots of experience you can still get caught out. I am 65 years old now and still in good health. I’m single and I like to meet with the ladies when I visit Pattaya but I have a golden rule that I set out for myself I never try to date a lady under 40 years of age especially if I want to spend some quality time with her and make her a holiday girlfriend. I think this is quite a sensible rule as what would you talk with her about? She’s a younger girl you’re not going to have much in common with such an age gap. It would be difficult and I don’t think I would enjoy my time.

Of course I’m not talking about one night stands I’m talking about spending several days if not weeks with the same girl.

So how did I mess up I hear you cry? Well let me explain.

When I go to visit Pattaya I have my regular bars that I like to go to. One particular bar where everybody knows me and which feels like a second home. I like to play pool with the girls who are very good players. I always leave them a decent tip so they’re always happy to see me and play pool with me. The owner of the bar is a lady of about 50. She’s quite attractive but she’s obviously seen better days. I suspect she’s an ex bar girl or go go dancer who got lucky ending up with a bar has she fleeced some poor unfortunate farang in the past to get to where she is today? We’ll never know. Anyway she’s friendly enough and always buys me a drink.

Most of the girls working in the bar are well seasoned bar girls who have been around the block more than once the average age being around 40.

Meeting Knock in the Regular Bar

On a recent visit to Pattaya I noticed a new girl who looked quite young. So out of curiosity I spoke to the owner and asked about the girl who is she and where has she come from as she seems quite young. The owner went on to tell me that she is the daughter of a friend who is there just to make some extra cash from drinks and never goes out with customers ever and she was just 22 years old. Fair enough and I never gave the matter any more thought.

On this last trip I was in Pattaya for around a month. I would visit my regular bar most evenings and have one or two games of pool before moving on but many nights I spent the entire night in the bar as I really like the staff and they had a good pool table. While playing pool I noticed a steady stream of men would come into the bar sit with the young girl and buy her drinks. On average two or three would come into the bar when they saw her. The story was always the same they would walk past the bar spot this girl come in buy her several drinks and leave quite disappointed some of them even getting quite angry and storming off because she would not be bar fined.

In the earlier part of the evening when the bar was quiet the young girl would play pool with me. She knew I wasn’t interested in anything more than playing pool and I always bought her a drink and tipped her. Her English wasn’t brilliant but after many trips to Thailand my Thai has become better. I wouldn’t pretend that I’m fluent but I do understand quite a bit. Sometimes after a game or two of pool we would just sit together and talk because she seemed to trust me as I was a regular and never tried any funny business.

During one of these chats I asked her how she felt about older men wanting to take her out of the bar. She seemed to totally understand the situation and didn’t really give it a lot of thought I guess she had been well groomed by the older girls who work in the same bar. She went on to tell me that she didn’t really like working in the bar and that she would be leaving and going to Bangkok after a couple of weeks. She had promised the owner that she would see the month out. Apparently she was going to work in a factory in Bangkok. I asked her ‘Isn’t that a low paid job compared to what you’re making now?’ She said yes but she didn’t care she hated the nightlife scene and what she did to earn money taking drinks from strange men.

She actually came across as a really nice girl. I enjoyed her company and it was interesting hearing her honesty.

But something happened to me this time around. It was almost as if she had cast a spell on me that I couldn’t get out of. Let me explain. I’m going to call her Knock not a real name of course but this name seems to be one of the most common names I hear in the bars. It’s hard to explain but I was suddenly infatuated with Knock. This might sound simple but I actually think I fell in love with her right there but not in a physical way. I just wanted to win her over like no other guy had managed to do. It almost became a challenge that I had to overcome.

Bar Drinks and Decisions

So from that moment on the relationship between Knock and myself changed. I wasn’t really interested in getting her back to my hotel it was more of the challenge for me to get to the point that she would say yes. I was already one step ahead of the game as Knock felt comfortable with me and of course was very familiar with me playing pool with her most nights. I have to mention at this point that all of the guys who had come into the bar and bought her drinks had tried to get close with her but she always sat with a gap between her and the customer. At times she looked extremely uncomfortable and I honestly think it was difficult for her sometimes.

Whenever I would go into the bar I was like a schoolboy when I spotted Knock. She would approach me with a pool cue in hand. I would make an excuse and say I was tired and I just wanted to sit down and have a drink but I’d like to buy her a drink as well. Over the next week or so I made it quite clear to her that I found her attractive and cute and enjoyed being close to her. I actually felt quite ashamed of myself with the age gap but I couldn’t help it I just enjoyed her company. Eventually it got to the point where she would sit extremely close to me. She had no problem with me putting my arm around her and at times she would rest her hand on my knee. She’d never done this with any other customer I’d seen.

I even got to the point where she was comfortable to give me a close hug every now and again.

As I said earlier I found this situation a challenge. Bearing in mind that she hadn’t been close with anybody I will say for the record again I wasn’t interested in taking her back to my room. I just wanted to get to the point where if I asked she would say yes. I don’t know why I can’t explain it. It’s one of the strangest situations I’ve found myself in.

So now here I was several weeks in and Knock is very comfortable with me. She was really opening up telling me lots of her inner thoughts. We chatted like teenagers and I enjoyed her company immensely. On one particular night when I visited her bar I wanted to push it to see how far I could go with it. So after several drinks and the usual petting session I asked her if I could pick her up in the afternoon and take her to Jomtien Beach for food. Without hesitation she said yes wrapped her arms around me and gave me the most incredible hug with a massive smile from ear to ear.

I felt so satisfied that I had brought this situation to this point. I felt I had taken this shy girl who was very uncomfortable with her customers to the point where she would actually meet me and spend an afternoon with me at the beach. Who knows where it might have gone from there I’m pretty sure I can guess but I put the brakes on there and then. That night I left her bar on a high. I couldn’t stop thinking about her and I was looking forward to an afternoon at the beach.

Breaking the Spell With Knock

But that night in my hotel room I looked at myself in the mirror and the spell that had suddenly been put on me in this situation left me right there and then. I hadn’t arranged a time and day to pick Knock up so there were no issues with letting her down. The following day what I did do was return to the bar in the evening. The first thing I did was tell her I wanted a game of pool. She had a strange look on her face it was as if to say ‘I’m confused.’ After several games of pool we sat down at our regular table. I took her hand and began to pour out my feelings.

I began by telling her she was a beautiful young girl who had her whole life ahead of her and she shouldn’t waste her time on people like me who wouldn’t always be around. I tried to explain to her as best as I could what I was feeling but basically I told her I’d made a mistake I should have never tried to get so closely involved with her. She said something to me that I will never forget and will haunt me for the rest of my life. Tears started to pour down her face. She went on to tell me that she had never been treated so kindly by anyone in her life. She told me that she loved me but not in a physical way. She said I was like the father she had never had.

Honestly I had to excuse myself and go to the bathroom. I nearly burst into tears myself right there and then. I felt so ashamed of myself. How had this situation developed? A 65 year old man from Wales falling in love with a 22 year old girl from Thailand. I felt awful. The guilt overcame me at that moment but I couldn’t stay in the bathroom all night. I dusted myself off put my best foot forward and tried my best to look normal when I got back to the table.

The owner of the bar was sitting with Knock. She asked me what had happened and she couldn’t get any sense out of Knock. I’d had enough of lies and playing games and I wanted to be brutally honest and tell the owner of the bar what I had done. She sat and listened to me and didn’t interrupt me once she let me tell the entire story as to what had happened between Knock and myself. Honestly I was expecting a beer bottle across my head or at the very least being run out of the bar by all of the other girls.

But this female bar owner must have had a very colorful life because not only did she not hit me across the head with a beer bottle but she asked me to sit down on the sofa on the other side of Knock and told her staff to bring me a beer. She was an old hand she had seen this situation time and time again. It was just business. Of course Knock was closer to her than the other girls but they only knew I was a decent guy I wouldn’t have hurt Knock on purpose.

Eventually the situation died down and I tried to act as if nothing had happened but it was never the same. On the following nights I went into the bar Knock was civil but cold towards me. On my last night in Pattaya I spoke to Knock and told her I would be leaving the following day. I offered her a tip of 3000 Baht I don’t know why I did that. It was probably more to make me feel better than anything else but she turned it down. She smiled nodded her head and walked off. What a girl. This made me feel even more terrible.

Back Home Thinking of Knock

I’m now back home in my village and as I write this story I’m still confused as to how I could have got myself into that situation. I can only put it down to the power that most girls hold over men and are sometimes unaware of this power. There is a saying I’ve heard many times that ‘it’s only in Thailand.’ I still think about Knock on a daily basis and dream of what could have been had I been of a similar age.

Story Four The Twilight Zone Meeting May Again

Here is a short story of an experience I had when I recently visited Thailand. On my first night of a two week holiday I went into a bar on Soi Cowboy and I met this gorgeous girl called May. I’m guessing I am younger than most as at the time I was just approaching 30. May told me she was 24. She had long black hair and a beautiful tan she looked like something out of a Bounty advert. So I asked May to sit with me. I bought her a lady drink but if truth be known I bought her several lady drinks which weren’t cheap. No matter I was on holiday and sitting with this drop dead gorgeous girl.

She told me the usual it was her first night in the bar she’d never been out with a customer and she was a little nervous speaking with me. Same old script. I just smiled and kept nodding in agreement with her although I knew it was all BS. After about 45 minutes I asked her if she would like to come out of the bar with me. She immediately said yes and told me the bar fine and how much she would expect me to pay her so much for being her first night.

So this experience went like clockwork. I paid the bar fine she came back to my hotel the aerobics were great I gave her a tip for the taxi in the morning and she left. Nothing unusual so far.

The next day I was having lunch in my hotel when a guy sitting at the table next to me introduced himself and asked me if I was on holiday. We chatted for a while and he seemed like quite a decent guy. So we agreed to meet up in the evening and head out to some bars. To be honest I was happy at the thought of some company. We met up later that night at about 9 PM and we decided to head over to Nana Plaza where the action is going around the bars. I had a lot of fun with different ladies buying them drinks and playing touchy touchy if you know what I mean. My new friend called Andy drank plenty but I noticed he didn’t get involved with any of the ladies which I found very strange.

When I asked him about this he told me he had a full time serious Thai girlfriend and he didn’t want to risk the relationship by playing around in case he was recognized by one of her friends. I told him he was very lucky that she allowed him to go out to Nana Plaza and drink I thought all Thai girls were supposed to be extremely jealous. He told me that she’s from a very serious family and that she wasn’t allowed out after 9 PM at night. Apparently some Thai parents are very strict with their daughters this is the Thai culture different to our own. He said he would meet her in the day spend time with her and normally say goodnight at about seven or eight PM at the latest.

The next day was a Sunday. Andy told me that his girlfriend was coming over for lunch and being on my own he would like to invite me to join them. I thanked him and told him I would love to meet his girlfriend and have lunch with the pair of them.

Lunch With Andys Girlfriend

I think you know where this is going right?

So there we are Andy and I waiting for his girlfriend on Thai time. We’re both extremely hungry and there’s a buffet just two meters away from us almost like torture. Eventually the love of Andy’s life appears. He introduces his stunning beauty to me and yes you’ve guessed it it was May from my very first night on Soi Cowboy. The very same May who had only just started in the bar who had never been out with customers but had made an exception for me. This was like being in the Twilight Zone.

I didn’t know where to turn. I didn’t have the heart to tell Andy that the love of his life was basically a go go dancer. But that wasn’t the strangest thing. What was strange was the way that May acted. She was a perfect actress lying so naturally and acting as though butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth. When Andy introduced us obviously not knowing that I had met her on a previous occasion she shook my hand smiled and told me she was happy to meet me. The rest of the meal was extremely uncomfortable not for Andy or the Oscar nominee May but for me. Anyway thankfully we got to the end of the meal without drama. Andy explained that him and May were off to a local mall and May had wanted to do some shopping.

I wondered at that point who would be picking up the tab I kind of guessed it wouldn’t be May.

And basically that’s my story. Incredible as this seems I’m guessing this sort of thing goes on in Thailand every day of the week. It actually blew me away. As for May I’ll keep my fingers and toes crossed for her and hope that Andy never goes into her go go bar because they will both get the shock of their lives. I thought about going back into the go go bar and bar fining May again on another day but Andy was such a lovely guy I just couldn’t do it to him. I’m not sure if I should have told him about me I just couldn’t bring myself to face telling him. I hope he finds out one day so that he can find a decent girlfriend a better girlfriend that he deserves.